paintingsbypanco: I didnt quit classic WoW... I quit Blizzard completely...

synyster__2120: WoW will never reclaim it's former glory until they stop designing the game around the top 1% of players.

mattulrich2810: When I started vanilla my wife played , brother-in-law, father-in-law and mother-in-law all played. My mother and father were terrible at the game mechanics but offered our guild the mats they needed to run the raids. They where given a raid spot and basically were carried but it was the most fun time in the game. After Cata we couldnt carry them anymore and they all left. Now none us us play.

hliang4: "over the years classic wow has cultivated a hardcore community." Well, yeah if all the casual players left because they are not experiencing the game, and hardcore players are all that you have left, that's not cultivating...

craigcrx: Asmongold can you talk about WoW confirmed for Xbox. Theres so many people thinking it wont happen but Xbox literally posted the Line up and its being released at the time for TWW

framinthor: people need to understand that what Asmongold refers to as "hard" is essentially mechanics that if ONE player messes up it will wipe the entire raid.

Is it actually HARD for an individual who knows the boss, knows mechanics, knows timers, knows when to use cooldowns? no. It is HARD to find a group of 20 people who also know it.

Hard in this sense is more of it is TOO PUNISHING and is not fun. it is NOT FUN to get good in a game where one bad player can ruin your gameplay, heck, not even 1 bad player, just 1 bad play by someone you have no control over.

Look at classic raids, 40man raid where you only need like 10 people who know what they are doing, 10 people who have ok game knowledge, and 20 cold bodies that can somewhat DPS

filidhdeklend893: Too many players ignored that WoW was supposed to be an RPG, especially in Wrath. And the biggest offender of this is the man now in charge of the game, Ion Hazzikostas. He's 100% "that guy".

yevgenydevine: "Get good"

- People who were never good at anything

kevin-charlesbeaudry4695: Classic wow should’ve been Vanilla and that’s all.

annikastrauzs: Classic TBC and WotLK was just not a "Classic" experience due to ingame Shops and pretty much 80% of players just chasing the meta. Had no one to play with, since all my mates and everyone on the realm just wanted to 100% ASAP instead of just playing and having fun.

AzurePrower: When they were rushing out patches at a fast pace, I knew classic was doomed.

BrolyPowerMaximum: Wow will never be what it was at launch because…

-The game was new.

-Playing felt consequential. You needed to form communities and strategically play to accomplish goals.

-you would make actual friends from across the real world. You actually connected with people. It wasn’t “oh you aren’t a ten time gladiator and we can’t get top 1% immediately?! I’m outskies!”

-It was like an actual world, mentally.

-Connectivity through media was almost completely different. WOW’s structure incentivized people to make their own communities. The server itself was a community.

Lthemisan: Telling people to get good in bad/ Not fun games reinforces Misery Loves Company.

domehammer: Wotlk guilds were collapsing by end of that expansion. Then Cata entered the room with a baseball bat and finished off a lot of the surviving guilds.

KaijuTuna: Sod sucked because it was the worst of retail and classic in one.

Edit: MB guys for being unclear! Sod phase 2 and forward sucked*

Jburt571: No matter where you think Classic "ends" Cata is on the other side of that line.

markusruehlsports: retail players are younger and greedy and vanilla players are older folks, who just want to relax and fun.

Belial650: All we wanted was classic plus, not some seasonal bullsh@#.

We don't want runes we just want new classic content, areas and dungeons that didn't get finished and became old-school lore of what could of been.

seanheisey8645: What if raid design philosophy was based around making a big exciting and very fun experience versus making something very challenging and exclusive to the elite few who have no real lives outside of mythic raiding?

EthelJung-j5w: I will never understand why so many of his audience fight him on every wow take.. he was literally one of the 0.01% super sweats he knows what he's talking about

Temperans: Thank you asmond I have been saying this for years: Companies listen to the top 0.1% and then get shocked when 50% of the player base quits.

TinfoilHatWearer-w9v: Turtle WoW is a better experience than anything Blizzard currently offers and they actually ban botters. Doesn't make sense to pay Blizzard $15 per month right now.

crusaries2781: It is very true that the developers "do not understand the WoW classic." Class changes are made without a soul, as if they are trying to make a modern classic Ford by stripping the interior and wrapping it with cheap plastic, installing a large Chinese monitor. This is a rare car, dude! If you need a modern car, go to a car dealership.

You were asked to make an improved classic, not a retail on crutches.

the_purple_mage: The reason I quit playing Classic is because they didn't make separate TBC or WoLK realms; instead, they just kept rolling it into... Cataclysm? That's not even classic WoW.

MrStoffus: The endgame in WOW was never the raids. Think about it...Why get the best gear if you don't use it... And what you use it on ? The end game of having it...Addiction is not doing, but having...

xSilentVeterenx: Streamers making everything a E-Sport is ruining gaming.

mattemattics5667: “Cataclysm is too hard.”

Time is a circle.

mattemattics5667: JA Brack is somewhere cackling maniacally while in a strait jacket

Misterreckonize: I’m just at a point that I don’t have any drive to play any of the wow versions. Sucks man.

tonygarcia2591: 1. Never Banned Bots/ Hackers

2. Split the community into 50 versions of wow

3. got ban happy for GDKPS like its none of your business how we play a game we pay for..

angryfish9976: Blizzard had me for life. I loved everything they did. They really betrayed the fans in every way.

user-yv4mm6bx3c: It all started in OG TBC. The gear for heroic dungeons was supposed to be an alternative for raiding, but the community ultimately made it mandatory to get into raiding. I did that grind originally because the game was still compelling. I did it in WOTLK as well, for the same reason. I left the game in Cata, because the story was not compelling enough to keep doing that grind.

When classic moved to TBC I was not going to do that grind again, so I stayed in OG Classic.

janitor8884: Not sure how you can see the classic re-releases as anything other than passionless money grabby garbage.

LaughingPixelsOG: You WoW players always sat upon a guilded throne looking down on us peasant RuneScape players, I will never forgive nor forget.

XRPaladin: I didnt quit classic. I just play Turtle WoW. Best iteration of wow thats available. With unreal 5 coming in 2025, android play, steam deck. How could you not be playing TWoW if you love classic.

HD-fc4ds: Classic launch was retail rerelease in the disguise from the beginnning

kurtl8425: Cata is where I first stepped away from WoW the first time.

kaossverige: Our quite large friends and family circle quit Classic because we wanted a Classic 2.0 and we got Cata, hardcore, SOD, retail accompanied by an abundance of gdkp runs and bots... duck you blizzard and duck ALL of your supporters. You deserve each other

SammyGoated: The problem is that WOW is just an MMO with no RPG.

Voltagio57: Dang, such a rough time for Classic! I knew when it got to cata it'd fall off. However, the idea of taking base classic and just adding new zones/raids (NOT new abilities, and new rolls for classic like SoD) is the only thing that will make people "return to classic" a Classic And I think blizz basically just confirmed that.

fumped: Re-release the trilogy and make a big event out of it just like 2019

manicmonarch2608: Wrath is end of Classic Era.

Cata, Mop, and WoD should be regarded as a Systems Era, where they experimented by adding non-wintergreen systems.

Legion, BFA, and Shadowlands are the "Borrowed Power" era. Artifact, Azerite, and Anima Power.

Convescation: My guild was still progressing on Sunwell when WotLK classic launched, we all thought there was going to be dedicated TBC servers, but nope, all of our toons got xfered over to WotLK, no warning, no option, no blue post before hand explaining how everything will play out. My whole guild quit because we thought, whats the point? lol, We all do play SoD now though

ghostlykun5145: “Get gud” - Paste Eater Champion

Mathus1: I remember back when WoW first released, if it wasn't your first MMO, you considered it the easy MMO. Classic was never hard, and WoW shouldn't be hard, it's better as a casual game.

mm_rocha1909: No one wanted Cata Classic. SoD is a test playground for Classic , they tested what works and what does not work. That's clear of what they did in phase 3 didn't work and they lost momentum with Cata to develop phase 4 further. Hope they stop Classic at Cata and focus on Classic development.

imnackeredsirnackered948: People want hard but not complex. People want to easily pick up the game, understand the game but also have a bit of a challenge. Whereas retail wow is complex where there is 50 buttons u got to smash, 50 aoe things you got to hit and many different rotations and mathematical equations you got to figure out to do a raid and you got to either do this with 5 other people or in a raid group.

VaporSulla: Cata made me quit wow until mid Legion, I'll never forgive Blizzard for changing Azeroth.

bogdankl2000: everyone was laughing and picking on the no changes crowd because they liked the changes, now everyone complains about changes because they no longer like the changes, the irony

tacitus6384: I redid the WoW journey: Vanilla > TBC > WotLK.

That's the Warcraft 4 story. That's the end of Warcrafts story as far as I'm concerned.

Demaku: Asmon: "its not hard?!? are you stupid?".... well thats precisely why those people DONT find it hard.. cause they ARENT stupid... The hardest part of raiding in wow is finding 20-25 competent people to do the raids...

SaMiK81: I can tell why i quitted without even watching video first. I quitted because of Cataclysm. It is not classic wow anymore. Neither is classic era. All i wanted was TBC server.

kangrooftw: I wonder if the Warlock who got the corrupted ashbringer quit

Neeko2lo: Just to add on to the difficulty point. One factor that is being immensely overlooked is that the average max level Player in Vanilla WoW was a neckbeard. The average max level Player in Cata and beyond were casuals. Making a pug with neckbeards isn't as punishing as making pugs with casual transmog farmers. Since leveling was removed from the game, casuals and hardcore players were now put into the same content.

serijas737: The Downfall of WoW in general directly correlates with the dumbifying of the Night Elf Lore that is nothing but a weird mess today.

Bring back tall, sweaty amazonian women that are ANGRY because their MEN are SLEEPING all DAY, while they're left to DEFEND the fucking WORLD from evil.

danielskrivan6921: I don't remember if it was the store mounts, the squelching of the emotes because of the reaction to the store mounts, the P2W level boosts, or the "Body Type 1" and "Body Type 2" fiasco, but it was one of those.

Aug 07 2024

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