Jaikip: The ad before the video was some weird asmr ai bot telling me to break up with my girlfriend
Lethologican: Most of the comments are focusing on whether it's fair for KC to play qualifiers or whether it would be fair for them to get to bypass qualifiers, but this is missing the point. The real question is whether it's fair for suhhh and Top Cougars to have to play KC just to qualify when other qualifying teams don't.
Sure, KC lost this time, but 99% of the time any qualifier team is losing here even if they're better than the other qualifier teams. How is it fair or useful for qualifiers to be determined in half by who runs into the monsters first? If we want the best teams to do well, that also includes wanting the best challengers to qualify, and this format inhibits that.
It's not like this is a radical suggestion. Tennis majors don't make every pro play in qualifiers. Football leagues don't make every team play relegation matches. Last year RLCS had top 8 automatic qualification and nobody died. There is some notion of achieving a presumptive level of performance. This gives some security to participants who do well, it gives qualifiers a next step to strive for, and it ensures that qualifiers are measured against each other to determine who deserves entry to the main event. It's better for everyone.
VibesAreHigh: They should do it like Tennis does it. They have rankings that are running all season and players are seated in tournaments, but then you have qualifiers prior to the tournament where you have a whole tournament of players who compete to make entry into the main tournament.
Nick-ch8cf: RLCS like most esports should be more insular. Keep its big names, keep its big teams going. They did it better before the big change, with RLRS and stuff. The skill gap has closed big time. Its been impossible to root for a team for a while now with all the turmoil.
kylepaus8429: Ferra is the most professional person in the RL pro scene. Pure class by him taking on the blame and deflecting the publics criticism away from the players.
dylon2372: Losing to 3 lesser teams and still going to a major would be borderline favoritism. Maybe the bracket needs some tweaks, but so does KC.
bohanger6315: Unlucky, go next...
thundabread318: I have to think that yes - this is likely bad for the esport in terms of dollars. Big teams losing and missing out on playing in main events and lans does kind of directly translate to fans of those teams likely not watching and not purchasing tickets to events. Now I’m not advocating for big orgs getting handheld, but I do think that there’s a better format out there to utilize to try and mitigate the volatility for pros and the orgs they represent. And I think it would also probably benefit viewership and turnout directly as well.
metaggrit: Variance can be a frustrating aspect to competetive play. I'm a competitive tcg player, so I understand this as much as anyone. And it seems like variance has too much impact on the open- quals portion of RLCS in this new format. I think there are a number of solutions to help with this:
1. Make Fridays a best of 5 double elimination bracket.
2. Make Fridays a swiss format where the top 16 teams advance off of a points based system.
3. Make Fridays a combination of 1 and 2.
4. Embrace the variance aspect of competition and have extremely high prize pools for the top finishing teams.
FredrickTheKorok7: JohnnyBoi: Is this bad for RL?
elliottschmidt2446: I’d like to see auto qualification. However, rather than seeing the top 8 in season points auto qualify, I’d want it to be the top 8 from the previous main event. Then have the bottom 8 from the main event fall into a Swiss closed qualifier against 8 open qual teams. That way, teams are rewarded for a good performance, have consequences for a bad performance, new teams have a fair chance to make it, and still somewhat maintain consistency for which teams we see over the course of a season.
lucaspradel271: Epic has to grasp as well that restricting these orgs (especially KC) has a major impact on viewership, I don't have the exact Stat but a big percentage of viewers are FR watching French orgs, the last major shows proves that, let's see if karmine doesn't make major2
genericname8314: My opinion is if you make it past swiss, either the top 8 or top 4 should auto quality for the next open's swiss stage. If they can make it that far, they should be rewarded for that performance it might also create opportunities for bubble teams because they won't run into the top teams during qualification stage
May 15 2024