HUNTOisbehindyou: reality check : most chill players quitted a long ago, now the 15k players left are just sweaty tryhards

iMukbangs: 1 Cautty for NA Director

Saitama-fr3qt: Starts the vid and immediately assumes every1 has a roster of 6x 1640 and is running 18 raids per week without any issues what so ever. This vid is a good example of how these so called streamers are out of touch from reality.

nuke629: how does mats from dailys effect inflation lol? it does not matter if u make 200k gold from dailys, those are mats not gold. The main issue here is the fact that ppl are bussing 1640 content on alt accounts, and i have even seen busser take 1640 bots no question asked. They need to nuke bussing and 1640 alts making this much gold....

SignOne: I knew since the beginning of valtan busses that bussing will kill the game. It was just.. obvious to me. Be it slowly or how ever but allowing that is like allowing your local lake to be a dumping ground of radiation waste. Then it got accelerated with everyone using chaos bots and what ever. I don't even think RMT is the issue, just bots. That's the root cause. I'd never buy or sell gold in RMT fashion but I have no issue when players trade gold they obtained by playing themselves. Game promotes it anyway lol, just by "official" means so they get a cut

TheSoundOfReee: its not the game that changed. its community standards that went crazy.

Chumpzs: 1 Bald

mandatorycorpaccount: I think the situation is way more cooked than it was back then. Even if we talk simple quantities, a singular book took say half of your weekly gold and you only needed 2 sets (or 1 set if you managed to snatch good acc with class engraving). Now you can spend all your weekly gold on 1 book and you need 5 sets of them on top of it you have gold sinks like karma, which are also not cheap (especially if you're unlucky and keep getting pity every other level) and god forbid if you want to hone your new alt which doesn't have advanced honing done. Yes, we earn more gold, but the rate at which game wants to drain our gold went above and beyond.

jozan23: Ive played the game for almost 3 years now, but the thing that makes me log off earlier and ealier is going into the party finder applying to Aegir HMs with full AP and first leap points from brel and getting insta denied for having levle 6 and 7 T4 event gems.

fokubashen8515: to claim that we all have a full roster of 1640 how arent getting gatekeeped and that we are able to run 54 gates,42 guardians and 42 chaos dugeons a week is borderline cazy. and to have that as the base line of the playerbase who is "sitting on piles of gold like Smaug" is such an L take.

petetam7394: lol why dont you compare how much a roster of 6 make in early T3 and the book price back then ?

Oreha :1500, Argos : 3000, Valtan :3000. 6 gold earners would net in 45k a week. Surge and Grudge books were 20k a book. That seemed much easier to have than your 300k from weekly T4 raid gold and the book is 400k a piece and you need 5 of it.

NaruKH2FM: I mean shit, 500k a week sure. how many weeks is that without spending gold on 1 single other fkng thing just to complete all books lets say?

16weeks for adrenaline ALONE 9/10 weeks for KBW, 6 weeks for CD, 10/12 weeks for grudge, 5-6 weeks for RC/AM.

pretty much an entire year of farming every single day without spending a single dime on anything else to get JUST your books done.

Doesnt seem very normal to me.

I'm not entirely disagreeing with every point, just that some things have changed and that its just a tad bit overtuned in terms of pricing

czekskii: It is 10x more efficient to RMT over the in game shop. That coupled with a relaxed ban policy on those who RMT is the problem with the game. The value of gold is not the number itself, it is what you can buy with the gold.

dreadedronin24: The difference back then for engravings was that you didn’t need to buy all 5 engraving books to max to have the build be maxed out you needed two at most and it was way less expensive the when need 20 of all 5 books and the cheapest one is over 150k a pop. It’s way more expensive then book plus acc back then even related to the gold income

itsDubla: W take dude. You can't be perfect and make everyone happy but this was pretty damn solid. <3

rennaaa6667: Shit take, weekly revenue to cost ratio is way off now compared to T3.

ahahchildsplay: Been playing for 3 years, haven't spent a dime for the game in the last 1.5 years.

1682 SF

1666.66 scrapper

1662 deadeye

1640 breaker

1640 SE

dropped blade at 1610

I full clear all raids every single week on them.

Honing is borderline impossible even when funneling to main, but I tried by best to get 2 of my 1640's into 1660 which costed around 2 mil gold

Honing main is omega expansive I can't even get into hard brel

I had 1 mil gold and some mats and I thought I'd make my scrapper somewhere in the range of 1670 , ended up being broke asf only getting 6 ilvls :D

Not spending a single dime on this game, ever again.

360k price for adren books

Crazy prizes for accessories and low shard income for attempting ancient relics taps on each character individually.

Brel bracelets are crazy too.

I have a static so I'm not worried for hard brel, whenever I come to it, but I already see the Phantom Lord exclusive gatekeep happening.

So considering what has to be done to all the 5 chars I play and the resources needed for me to PLAY the fucking game xD yeah

Angry? no. Disappointed - yes. When you want to play the game but can't unless you add cash, even when playing since launch on multiple chars is super crazy.

And my playtime on this game is maybe coming to an end with the current situation. That's my input and experience

twigsbtw: The frontier system is actually one of the greatest changes I think they've ever made to the game and I strongly believe KR should adopt it as well. Other mmo raid communities split into categories of hardcore/midcore/softcore and the frontier stages effectively mirror these effort levels with appropriately tiered rewards. KR wants more rewards for their very hardcore pushers and the initial frontier stage offers those (though I think they should REALLY invest in character select/MVP backgrounds, more than just titles). There's even a minor FOMO element that is benefiting AGS/SG (and if players cry about this, be an adult and manage your FOMO appropriately...)

It's just a win-win system for the playerbase and AGS/SG. If the KR playerbase isn't too prideful, this system is PERFECT for them in my opinion.

Seramp0: L Bald For luck

ajiwjaiwjaiwaji: mokokos already unnistaled the game after mokoko events is gone , low performance players are already quiting the game due to bible players exposing them and kick them from the brelshaza hard lobbies , game is already full of bots on fishing spots in t4 , bussing and rmt and alt accounts are infflactinng the game a lot , loa in the west have more 8 months of live .

Vezuls: Facts

2. Bussing, to go deeper, the issue now is bc it’s so fucking easy due to t4. Combine that with alt rosters and people piloting accounts of people who quit for extra bussing gold income… that ags refuses to ban, makes it a horrible issue currently

3. Literally fucking perma rmters. Take a stance and say “if u got away with it up to now, good for you. But from now on it’s a perma ban.”

4. YES MERGE THE FUCKING REGIONS

costelvulcanizare3535: This video only applies to tryhard players that have time to play 6 characters everyday

dreadedronin24: The thing about not needing all the stuff and that it’s mean to be build over time is. Yea that true but when your community has a culture of gatekeeping as much as ours does you are no longer allowed to just build this stuff up slowly you need to keep up with the top gear players or your gonna be gate kept out of the raids you need to keep up with the gatekeeping standards not the actual standard for what you can clear the content with. So no these system are no slow build anymore

ChristianKrillz: You aren't even adressing our main issue of the 1610-1670 deadzone lol... Lost Ark characters in 2025 only become fun/relevant at 1680 with full ancients. the fact advanced honing costs as many t4 mats to its t3 equivalent is criminal for anyone who didn't play during those echidna t3 times and fix ALL their characters with AH... Literally stuck in elohell trying to AH at 1670 with t4 materials lol.

eproductions5115: who knew the game whos community celebrates and engages in heavy gatekeeping is losing players LMFAO

asdf86yt: We only needed to buy 2 engravings back in the day. There is 5 that we need to buy now (and more for alts, depending on your roster).

Can you imagine how much the relic books would cost if we actually were gatekeeping relics?

The amount we earn feels worse compared to the amount of stuff we need to buy than it did back in clown days. Back in the day I believed all the alt hype from the Koreans. I brought 20 characters to 1540 with 5x3 at full price and most of them self-funded based on chaos and guardian tradeables. My alt army was 1540 when my main was 1580. My main is 1700 now, do you think I could have any army of properly geared 1660s? or even 1640s? Aint no way.

I agree that KR is getting railed, but things aren't so great here either. KR doesn't have to deal with the botting that we deal with, and while they have some RMT there is no way it is as bad as we have it. We have more alt rosters, Botters, and RMTers and they are all corrupting the hell out of the gold value in our economy. Everything is overpriced, so I sell.

We are all headshy. How many times have we had our economy fucked with, and we just try to navigate our way around it and do the best we can, only to have AGS come in with some idiot hamfisted "fix" that retroactively makes us regret everything we did. We are all just in wait-and-see mode right now. We all see how unreasonable the prices are and we refuse to participate and legitimize it.

"KR has it worse" is a pretty shit reason to not fix our version of the game.

Feb 17 2025

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