taikishi: Y'shtola's "candle" burning out is a localization error. In the original Japanese, Matoya warns her to be careful because relying too much on her aerthersight will leave her weakened. Nothing about her dying from using it.

tophergerkey: So tired of people acting like the game didn't explicitly tell us the Scions were still around in Ultima Thule and that we had the power to bring them back any time. It's not a fakeout if the game goes out of its way to hang a lampshade on it.

KarasuMayonaka: I'm sure they got a tooon of feedback over DTs msq

Thederpyguide: The Haurchefant part is even more crazy to me because I don't think he would be nearly as beloved if he didn't have such a complete arc in heavensward with that great ending sacrifice.

Tsuna_SoulSilver: We already have MH Wilds on FFXIV and its the first trial of DT lol

nubchaos: I think the introduction of the Trust system in 5.0 kinda guaranteed that the core Scions would NEVER die since we'd need them to fill in our dungeon rosters. But, they did spice that up in 6.0 and 7.0 by having characters like Zero, Varshahn, and Wuk Lamat filling in spots as needed during the story version of the dungeons, allowing them to temporarily bench the core Scions for periods of time. Alisaie and Alphinaud hanging out in Garlemald during most of 6.X, for example.

I don't think they'll ever kill any of the core Scions, but I could see one or more of them getting the Lyse treatment where their story kinda ends and they set out on their own path, only occasionally reappearing. We already get a bit of that in 7.0 with Y'shtola and G'raha not showing up until the second half of the story.

I just hope they don't introduce characters only to abruptly kill them off not even a whole patch later (staring at Moenbryda and Ysayle) cuz that's just cheap. I was worried they'd pull that with Zero in the Endwalker patch quests but fortunately she's still going strong.

WolfstarGaming1: You want an outcry like Hauchefant? Put Gra'ha or Estinien on the block I'm sure the internet would implode

crodo123: The discourse about these raids being too easy is going to greatly harm the scene in the future, just like the people complaining normal was too hard. You can't balance these raids according to what ultimate players find challenging or by what the bottom of the bottom find manageable.

The same discussions were going around in ARR regarding the final coil and look what happened.

KingDavidCreates: I feel like we all go back to one moment in Shadowbringers that most of us feel should've been the fate, to use their word, of Thancred but no they didn't do it. I do think if not killing characters, I'd like to see more characters get maybe the Lyse treatment. Where they go off to sort've play their own part, and then you could have the occasional cameo. One I think of is if we do potentially figure out shard travel, let Y'shtola just go be with her Cat Man. That'd be a great wrap up for her because her whole goal is figuring out interdimensional travel.

natebroadus8474: You just don't want a death to be a gimmick. I think that's what Yoshi-P is getting at--like a stunt death just to drum up a little controversy.

If they die it has to make sense, and not be something that was decided before the story was even written. Like saying, "Ok, Estinien has to die this expansion to shock people, how do we make that happen?"

It sounds like they want it to be more like:

Writing team: "Ok, guys, it's a painful subject, but the story is clearly going in the direction of a death, and with what we've done it makes the most sense it would be Estinien. How do we give him the sendoff he deserves?"

Varizen87: The thing that irritates me about people insisting characters need to die is they think it some how adds drama or drive and it's like... Not really... Not if it's arbitrary. Not if it's forced to happen because people expect and want death. That's a pretty trite and uninteresting thing if it's done for shock value, and if it's expected to happen because all the other edgy stories are doing it. A lot of the people insisting on killing characters use the argument "BUT THEIR STORY ARC IS COMPLETE!!!" My response to that is... OK... When one of your friends completes a major mile stone, do you just kill them because you think nothing else is going to happen with them of importance? If that's the case... you're a truly awful person. Just because 1 story arc is resolved doesn't mean that character should die... No one is ever finished growing, and often new events or circumstances can force a person to have to grow in a new way.

Plus... The biggest reason you know the Scions are armored in Plot is the Trust system. People act like Thancred should have died and I point to the fact that... He was the only available tank. Maybe Alphinaud can DPS and Alisae can heal... But no one else in the team during ShB could reasonably be a tank. Just to keep a balance for the Avatar Trusts, they're not killing anyone in the main team. I 100% agree with Haps on the EW stuff being cheap because you know they're coming back, but I don't consider that Death. Even Meteion implied they weren't dead, just transformed. And you knew for the dungeon at the end of Ultima Thule, you'd need the Trusts back by the point. But after all the work to implement Trusts, they're not gonna break the balance by killing off tanks and healers. If they kill Thancred, then G'raha Tia is all you have left for tanking a trial. Estienien won't fit that well as a tank full time on that front.

guesswho2337: Pictomancer's 7.0 values were part of the balance for the tier, yes, but he also admits they underestimated how well Picto would perform - in other words, they underestimated how much damage players would be doing even before the buffs. The patch buffs just amplified the problem, but it was always going to end up easier than they intended.

They really do need to be less afraid to actually nerf things.

raventhorX: I feel your opinion on yoshi-ps idea of balance is a bit overtuned. Iirc arent you or were you in raiding groups that typically aim for worl first clears? My impression of those groups is that they are typically high skill players. I also get the impression that yoshi would rather see more people clearing all the content then a few people so he has a vested interest in attempting to make a fight feel difficult, but still passable. I dont feel like 60 seconds left for a clear is a whole lot. Especially when you consider the skill of the players who clear it. Those who dont have that skill will have a lot of difficulty with that fight and maybe yoshi is takong that into considering and what you shared in this video makes me feel you might be overlooking some of this.

nyrahl593: Didn't the reaction to the Sultana in 2.55 make them change her fate?

andrewclear8905: They really need to quit buffing all the classes to the one that does the most damage. It is really destroying any semblance of a challenge. This has been an issue for years. Should’ve just nerfed picto. The next raid tier will probably suffer the same fate.

drbiohazmat: as a MH player, it doesn't matter what limited locales we've seen in Wilds so far, Nidhogg would definitely be able to fit. I mean, we have Elder Dragons (four legged monsters with wings like traditional dragons) who can often appear in most locales, but also some will only show up in a unique locale for them. On top of that, there's recurring locales that are a rather generic battleground locale for any monster to show up. Nidhogg would be so awesome in Wilds

TheWrxrally: Is it really a bad thing that the first raid tier is a little easy? I mean, if it gets people in who thought it was too hard for them, is that bad?

Enl1gtend: More than anything I just want to see Viper reverted to pre-patch 7.05

medusagreek2200: i looked at your fflogs only the picto died, one of the healers died in the last 20secs, and you had only 2 dps downs on your clear which was from the picto and gnb

AndyAnonymous: Listen... cross DC travel would be a disaster, mostly for JP players. NA players would not behave themselves. They're a lot less disciplined in general in duties and they would never be compelled to use autotranslate in a non-meme fashion. I could see them opening the NA-EU-OC servers to each other, but JP is not happening.

Also if people think the Scions are too safe from death now, imagine if SE gives the players what they want and makes them romanceable. None of them will ever have a chance of dying again.

nizizumi: The raids do not need to be any harder. PF already has a hard enough time as is.

Hunterbw93: can someone ask this man what hes going to do with summoner? I feel like a cuckolded version of Red Mage right now!

xxomega702buzzalini8: Yes, your team did well. In PF people can't do stand in place for clock spots or pre-fight party set up.

Aug 29 2024

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