Duarte_GB: SMN has been struggling so much Larry was summoned
bathsaltshero: ya know they fucked up when larry comes out of the woodwork and goes 'listen up' XD
ScottBear: Holy shit a Larry video
CheshireFatorum: Remember all those "we couldn't work on egi-glam, we were busy working on other summoner features" each and every expansion?

Yeah, this time they left summoner practically untouched, and still no egi-glam.
PorinaAdventures: I got to the ding bit, and now all I can think of is that a SMN needs the ding to go with the dong.
ScarecrowsWord: Summoners: “They didn’t add anything new to our kit!”
Dark Knights: “First Time?”
madambutterfly1997: All we asked for was a full kit. All we wanted was Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva added to the package. But Yoshi-P said F*K NO!!!
docsigma: It’s been 3,000 years…
Rometopia: SMNS so bad it took Larry out of retirement
CrimsonScrewdriver: A feature that lets you choose different animations for attacks to reuse animations that are replaced or ones that were outright removed would be really neat. Everyone always complains that Dark Knight hard a ton of cool animations removed
drbiohazmat: I love how he says Exodus like Exodia
mirubuns: I've been a fellow summoner main since I started playing in Shadowbringers, but I haven't been motivated to play Dawntrail SMN when there's other jobs that seem way more exciting
jordanrbrown: the dichotomy of scholar being one of the most complex jobs to play, to summoner being this easy nowadays, is just so wild.
scullzomben: The state of Summoner summoned Larry back to us.
madambutterfly1997: Hell, instead of Solar Bahamut, we could’ve gotten Demi-Odin instead
DoktorWieg: I'll be honest : I fully expected that the Lv.100 ability was going to be "Enkindle Carbuncle" and summon "Proto Carbuncle" from the Pandaemonium raids.

And/Or that between summoning Demi-Bahamut and Demi-Phoenix, you'd change your 3 regular summons from Ifrit, Titan and Garuda to Ramuh, Shiva and Leviathan. Mechanically, they could have been the same (Ramuh having slow casts, a rush and a blast, Shiva having 2 part casts and Leviathan having an AoE and fast casts) but they'd get their respective visuals.

Either that or be able to toggle Summon I through III for alternates like the pet-glamour, except for your summons.
RockR277: I'm with you on the ding. The sound effects are important. I'm still not used to DRG's full thrust sfx being absent from fuller thrust.
Nukacrepe: HE LIVES
invokeur15: OMG I thought I was the only one who missed the Fester sound. I don't pay much attention to the gauge and hearing the ding was my indication that I actually pressed the button.
DacianGradaMusic: I was so happy to see the SMN rework in EW, it felt more like an actual summoner, using primals, so cool! I didn't mind the simplicity because we need to have some less complex jobs, I get it. I was, however, very excited about what it would evolve into: it was a perfect "new beginning", they could build upon this, new primals, new cool interactions with same buttons, anything!
Then we got... this. Sigh... A lot of jobs got "reskins" for same stuff, think of the tanks getting their 3-spam buttons following up on GNB's combo, that's neat! RDM aoe combo got that, too. Imagine if we got 3 new summons in Phoenix, that'd been dope!
hollowgriefband: Whaaat youre back ????
Plz return to us
RemnentsPasts: What makes me sad is the pictomancer kit would've worked well for summoner and its so much more fun/ engaging

Creature Motif = Summon charge/cycle
Weapon Motif = Summon based attacks (slipstream, mountain buster, something for ifrit thats not a dash)
Landscape motif = solar bahumat (drops the hydolyn circle on the ground around it and Star Prism is it's big attack)
Instead of holywhite/comet black you have Energy drain/fester function in the same way

For the filler combo's the basic one coulld be just the current Ruins but the empowered ones would be the empowered gemshine versions cycling through ruby, topaz and emerald. Alternativly the ruby topaz and emerald become the basic for SMN (not arc) and the empowered are Leviathan, Ramu and Shiva themed.
Currently the themes for the spells would fit SMN easily as picto has Fire -> Wind -> Water for normal and Ice -> Stone -> Thunder for empowered. SMN would just need to swap water and stone
Carwinley: The Fester -> Necrotise complaint is the exact same one I had about SCH all those years ago: If you're going to replace a skill with a functionally-identical one, you should let me 'glamour' it.

I think it was Broil to Broil II, or possibly Broil II to Broil III, but the animation just didn't feel as good, but I was obligated to use it because it was the same spell with more damage. Nowadays, you don't even get a choice; it upgrades via a Trait.

This is particularly harshly-felt on WHM; Stone and Aero becoming Glare and Other Glare completely changed the aesthetics of the job. Hell, Holy went from an impressive-looking and -sounding spell into a dumb ugly flower.

These things can be fixed via mods, but that shouldn't be necessary in the first place.
roulette43: The ding being gone is honestly the thing I'm saddest about. It gave just the right amount of audial feedback to keep the rhythm going in your rotation y'know? Of all the things, the sound design of certain skills across some jobs is what I wish WOULDN'T ever change
starlight4599: Oh sweet bahamut, our king has returned
pipin7457: I have SMN as my main DPS, and I honestly miss the dot spread aspect of older summoner. Don't get me wrong, the new summons and flows and stuff is really cool, but my biggest gripe with summoner is below level 86 is just straight up boring without the weaves... I do think they needed something more interesting for Dawn Trail, but I also wish they had more to do at low level for doing roulettes and such.
XChronicHash: Wtf, he’s alive
Zance21: My favorite catboy is back with a graphical update
Asin24: EW: Oh wow, while it lost depth and is a bit brain dead it's still a good change in direction to make smn feel like an actual summoner! I can't wait to see what SE adds on to actually flesh the job into a good job to play!
DT: Does nothing
virgosenpai2312: I MISSED YOU KING!!
Hasediel: The whole Solar Bahamut vibe is telling me they wanted to give the job Hydaelyn as a summon and chickened out. "Exodus" is literally her sundering attack, and at the bottom of the enemy, her sygil appears!
Fussel95: Oh man it has been 84 years, I'm happy that you still play :D
Odins_Eyepatch: It’s a good day if I get a Larryzaur upload
dragondrakage2402: A blast from a past
lev_n: Brother you dont just suddenly pop in when I said "Man I wonder if Larry is gonna show up with endwalker here"

I spat my drink and ate my words man
Yuushiron: Larry is like the Avatar - when we need him the most...he returns
tribblesfoxfolk: Larry captured my feelings perfectly with this simple statement: "Oh no, it's gonna be 2 more years of THIS..."

Not just for Summoner, but for so many jobs.

Jul 20 2024

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