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Top Bard, Machinist Dancer Discuss Their Jobs in FFXIV Dawntrail


milkytea9899: Stal going off on Tillana sent me lmao
Serenaya: Man I really shoulda yapped more lmaooo.

Thanks for inviting me to be a part of this, Rinon. May our prayers finally be heard in the year 2030 or something.
NightpireVideos: It's funny that the MCH sounds depressed and tired of everything. A great job representative.
sinistersaintsgaming738: Mch being the greedy ranged and doing the lowest dmg of all jobs is fucking insane
Ellenoah3: Stal's tillana rant LMAO preach it sister all my homies hate new tillana! Making it a saber dance/dotd ready buff would be so much nicer than 50 gauge outright for sure

Great vid as always Rinon, I enjoyed hearing opinions from top phys ranged players as a phys ranged main myself. My hope is for more "phys ranged mechanics" that require movement away from the boss etc to give us more reason to be there than 1% :D
tootsietucan: As a dancer main, I absolutely HATE the tillana change. “Oh what’s that? Your partner is feeding you a crap ton of esprit for 2min? “OH WHATS THAT??? YOU OVERCAPPED?? LMAO SUCKS FOR YOU, FEEL BAD NOW EVEN THOUGH YOU DID NOTHING WRONG GET PUNISHED IDIOT” like part of me doesnt wanna tillana during 2 minute especially if my partner is going sicko mode and feeding me hella hard but then there’s an issue of “oh shit you need to hit tillana cause of raid buffs“BUT YOUR ESPIRIT GAUGE IS FULL AND YOULL FREAKING OVERCAP” i absolutely hate it here. If anything i would love to see it just give a ‘dance of the dawn ready’ proc like how they changed reaper and machinist’s, gauge buttons just…MAN…
youiri65: Stal's Tillana change rant is so real... I always die inside whenever my opener grants me 80 gauge before I press Tillana... please squenix make it a dotd/Saber Dance ready
bolladragon: My FFXIV buddy and I were theory crafting a Phys Range with a Blitzball inspired weapon to give a nod to FFX in the same way Gunbreaker and Viper have been homages to FFVIII and FFIX.
chrisnazar5124: If they lowered the cooldown on Head Graze from 30s to something like 10s then they can add quite a few interrupts to fights, giving phys ranged more utility. They can even keep interject on tanks, but keep the 30 second cooldown so phys ranged is needed in theoretical interrupt-heavy sections.
bwcReVaN: Very interesting video and the guests' input was very meaningful and on point. I think Surana's idea of adding more interrupts is definitely a very good way to increase the responsibility and make Prange feel more rewarding - kind of in the style of WoW where precise interrupts were extremely important for many fights. That being said it might have to be on a shorter CD or have it removed from tanks so that there are limited interrupt resources available. Additionally adding Prange-oriented mechanics like liquid hell is definitely another way to make the role more meaningful. Obviously Tillana is currently busted because it makes players feel punished for doing nothing wrong. Lastly the person that said make peloton usable in combat and on a long CD deserves a medal for originality - that is such a brilliant idea that can make Prange players feel needed and not just for the 1%.
Yentorin: Me: "Please don't make another prng job until you can make the existing ones meaningful." ~~ I didn't ask for a 4th scoop of sardine flavored ice cream.
abdelhadimersoul88: Making peloton work in-combat & give like 2 or 3min cooldown will be cool, especially if there is some raid mechanics that require fast movement
DarknessReborn50: As someone who cleared on MCH, just everything Serenaya said. I feel the depression in their voice in my bones. Autocrossbow not reducing cd like heatblast feels bad. Flamethrower is useless. Being at the bottom of every DPS list ever with a substantial gap between us and the 2nd worst is depressing. But at least I have my wrench back.

At this point Ive given up on ever expecting a selfish phys range to be competitive. Just give me a 2min buff like everyone else I guess.
TavernMasterZeyv: as a bard main: I do really feel like making Ranged DPS more support focussed by putting their importance more on buffs/debuffs could really give the Ranged DPS bracket something to make them feel special and meaningful. I might be biased because I do really feel like it fits well with bard style wise as well, but it could really give them something to call their own. I feel most satisfied on a bard run when I manage to optimally use my raid-wide mits, healing buffs, peon(bard esuna) and even properly using peleton.
formy52: As a BRD main I wish I felt more... supportive? When I was brand new I was sold on the idea of doing okay damage while helping boost my allies and while that technically happens, it's all in the background and doesn't feel like I'm actually helping.

You can't really feel the difference a 1% damage buff gives the party, it feels like a rounding error. Troubadour can occasionally feel clutch, but mostly you can forget it and do fine outside of highly specific scenarios. Minne is in there as well. At least DNC has some healing, the standard mit, and Improv during downtime or to flash a regen.

I think personally I'd prefer more active, noticeable support. Heck, give BRD a raise. They will never do it, but give it like a super long cooldown raise or a 10,000 MP raise and it might actually see some use.
DrZlow: ez.
make peloton usable in battle with 10 sec duration and 1 min cooldown.
Instantly more desirable in movement heavy fights

Sep 29 2024

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