lastdayer101: The funniest critique I've heard: One of the characters calls Wuk Lamat on linkpearl to give YOU a message, even though you have a linkpearl.
truthless4720: The saddest part of this is Krile got talked up as being so important in this expansion. She got like 5 minutes of screentime.
kitkahleethian3209: To your point, I think it's pretty funny that in Shadowbringers, we had a literal ghost bound and following us throughout and he still had the common courtesy not to hover in the background of every scene. hahaha.
jayshannahan9728: I think it was Preach who stated it quite well, something to the effect of: “How can I miss you, if you never go away?”
peterfabell154: Dawntrail makes you want to take a vacation
BiggerK: Everytime Wuk Lamat isn't on screen, everyone should be asking, "Where's Wuk Lamat?"
Deaq2: I think they tried to oversell Wuk lamat a bit too much.
daniellucas5522: It's not just wuk, every major character has to announce their motivation/goals every 15 minutes. All of them are the same.

Wuk just takes the brunt of the negative feeling over the endless monologues because she's the one with the most screen time and therefore the most monologues.

Zoraal Ja, Sphene, and Bakool Ja Ja were all the same, but they spend less time on screen so there's less time for them to piss you off.

And having major characters like the WoL and Scions passively standing around barely engaging with anything while we listen to the 214346t212415th monologue just exacerbates the lot.
cattysplat: That''s nice, but what does Wuk Lamat think about it? Speak with Wuk Lamat to continue.
RBNinja: Your relationship with this MSQ lives and dies on the strength of how much you like Wuk Lamat. And if you don't like Wuk Lamat this expansion is rough. She IS THE main character of Dawntrail and represents 60% of all spoken dialogue in the game.
C.Cer.: Even Emet wasn't this overbearing... and that guy could borderline be anywhere he wanted to be !!
Monstein: I rather go back and hang out with Lyse.
ajp1282: I thought Erenville was just being a "fussy lil bun bun" toward Wuk Lamat cuz he preferred to be alone and away from her.

After finishing the msq, I can see why.

Also, once the rite of succession was done, I was ready to travel to X'ak Toural w just Erenville and just be travel buddies. Wuk means well but her antics just seem like they would exhaust you if you're around her ALL the time, hence Erenville being fussy/snarky toward her.
astrealove2247: Not even Minfilia wanted to talk to you that much...
OuchXXI: Bring back Ishikawa and Koji, this wouldn't have happened if they were there.
25xxfrostxx: She's like what if Zenos were an annoying puppy that needed attention instead of combat.

Since they made you play as her, she's actually in the story more than you are. If you go back to 6.55 she is very different. They wrote her as a flawless Mary Sue and realized they had to do SOMETHING to make her "flawed" so she got seasick every 5 minutes and was scared of balloons. She rode on a boat 3 times in 6.55 and was nothing but happy. Also, she rode on three zip lines yet in DT "What is a zip line?!? poogers"
thapotatonater827: Ngl if she just didn’t exist and we came to help her brother the dlc would have been 900x better, he’s more likeable, less gullible and could of had a lot more relevance with regards to Alexandria and solution 9.
astrealove2247: And this is why Shaaloani is the best part of the story. Wuk isn't there to drag you around.
shimusume1486: I know the feeling all too well.

I was the same: I liked Wuk at first. She began to annoy me because I started feeling like she was clingy.

By the time I finished MSQ my annoyance turned into hate. The character would have been better if the writing was better.
robertdelacruz3032: At first I haven't noticed it due to the rite of session. BUT SHES IN EVERY FUCKING SCENARIO IM LIKE WTF there are times I walked away from the computer because she's there. EVEN IN THE BOSS FIGHT
ryze-1g: 140 times... "Speak to Wuk Lamat"

140 times....
HikingFeral: I'm going to be honest and directly stand against the toxic positivity a lot of people have. The writers who replaced Natsuko Ishikawa should be sacked. The music was a huge step down in general. The Disney like music was not only inappropriate but utterly trash. The staff who worked on the PVE and the mechanics and things like that should be rewarded. There should be a massive focus on undoing the bland and boring cookie cutter jobs. I hope people at Square are reading comments and watching content creators rip the game a new one because they have a lot of work to do and this harsh and brutal feedback is needed.
vincentbeton: Come to think about it, I find it kinda funny how Tural is that massive melting pot of Cultures, yet it is basically ruled by Monarchy. It's nice and all that the Dawnservant really really loves her people and peace but I cannot help but think that Ala Mhigo has been working out better with them trying to get input from all the Races and Cultures there when it comes to Government
user-qh6sg1dp1o: I think Hiroi really liked his OC a bit much. To the point he had to lobotomize everyone else.
Frogstoney: Escape>yes>escape>yes>escape>yes>escape>yes
Omega068: Yeeaaah, I think this is a pretty universally recognized problem. But what I find strange is that it's kind of obvious. So much so that it makes you wonder how it happened.
sennemichiels6748: Feels like "pray return to ARR writing" but worse
strife3044: I want a fucking restraining order.
starnyan7207: I always like to explain Wuk Lamat as that friend you invite to a party, and everyone's leaving for the night, but they just linger...and you're like well it's getting late, and they're just like "I can keep going" and won't take the hint to leave.
CombativeMedic: Even Zenos didn't make me want to write up a restraining order as badly as Wuk Lamat did... I don't ever want to see her again.
Zidana123: You lads are looking at the surface level of it but there's weirder, more subtle manifestations. Case in point, Koana.
nightvision999: People here totally overracting, as if the only quest text in the entire expansion were Speak with Wuk Lamat.


When you also got Wake up Wuk Lamat, Eat Taco with Wul Lamat, Shock Locals with Wuk Lamat, Stare at Wuk Lamat and Eat Lunch with Wuk Lamat.
ShmoofWB: Rumor has it if you say "Wuk Lamat" in the mirror three times she will appear behind you.
Nihonguy: I have no hatred for wuk lamat but i cant lie and say i wasnt desperately seeking to speak with alphinaud or krille two characters i love to death who btw dont get much screen time, to the point where when i got a break from wuk lamat i was kinda relieved
kn0bhe4d: They better make a big pivot away from Wuk Lamat in the post patches. They tried to sell her so much that we ended up hating her. Doesn't help that the English VA at least is so flat, be it because of the actor or the direction, doesn't matter.
yuina88: either one of the writers or someone high up in the CBU3 is a big furry fan and insist his big momma kat waifu be in every.single.scene.
lastdayer101: I've actually been tired of a character before in a game, and it was FFXIV. I HATED Cid until Shadowbringers. Whenever he would show up in ARR-Stormblood, he would just take credit for solving problems, right after I had just gone through a bunch of gameplay and quests.

Nero saved Cid for me. He humbles him.
mismismism: That's the baffling part. They give you zero time to breathe, she's on your ass more than your own shadow but then to add insult to injury, she's written as annoyingly as possible and if you played in English, the voice acting. Hydaelyn and Zodiark did not die for the audio department to fumble the bag so spectacularly with the main character.
meriwidget3474: I've actually really enjoyed the job/crafting quests, even if the combat ones are VERY basic, but I realized at one point why that was... No Wuk Lamat present and being able to talk to someone without her butting in... I got legit pissed when she showed up mid trial flight for kill steal, but she still ended up taking about peace and happiness to an effing machine!
MrWanton16: I think someone put it best when comparing her to Lyse. Both are vital to the expansion's themes but Lyse isn't written in a way where her personality engulfs everyone else's. I don't think it helps that the scions don't really serve a role here aside from like Krile at the 11th hour so for some it feels like Wuk Lamat is handcuffed to you for the entire expansion with cardboard cutouts of the scions as your sole buffer
ezequielalves879: There's a video from a small channel called Durantes. The name of the video is “Dawntrail WTF Is This” and it's the best DT review I've ever seen. As a journalist and writer, it was the most accurate review I've seen.
UrEmemi: WoL wasnt the focus in stormblood or heavensward. and we shared the focus in shadowbringers. this "fanbase just wants to be the focus" is such a weak argument. its not about us being support or not focus. its us not being important at all to the story, and scions being a non factor to an outrages degree, even Koana loses character growth to push wuk lamat is so good and awesome
mooserocka522: I do not blame you wuk lamat is one of the WORST characters square has ever done. She is every sentence PEAAAAASSS . And interupts with every single conversation. It gets so annoying. I really hope going forward she is cut out. ALSO THE WORST PART IS her facial animations. IT REALLY REALY ANNOYED ME.
mad_max21: Dawntrail writers need to find their true calling. Definitely not writing.
lukapitkanen3333: Wuk Lamat is the Jar Jar Binks of FF14, except she’s probably worse.
LameMule: 1) Go to Tural
2) Speak to Wuk Lamat
...
141) Spheeeene. Listen to me.
Jinxyoutoheaven: The Dawntrail promotion art should feature Wuk Lamat instead of the WoL.
Spozzerz: Just admit you don't like the character. Almost nobody does and it's alright, people are calling her Poochie on every single discussion forum for a reason, she's a masterclass of bad writing and was *never*
Kanamon22: I hate so many things about Wuk. The EN VA that was like ARR Alphi VA, the stupid quests, all the innecesary bs you did for and with her, her train of thoughts most of the time, etc. But one think i should totally give that character, is that is the first time in a long ass time when the FF community won't crucify you for skipping some parts of the MSQ.
vilidious: I'd summarize Dawntrail as a tourist trap -expansion.

- go to new area
- talk to locals and learn about their customs
- discuss your experiences of the tourist attractions with "friends"
- leave to the next tourist trap

Especially the cowboy play in a certain area, which we just watch from the sidelines like a tourist, and even the actual theme park area at the very end, with literal plays, natural museums and all, kinda underline it.

It's like in normal novels you see the interesting parts and action, but skip the training montage, but here it feels the opposite... you do all the mundane walking and chores, but the action is too often over in moments and, in some cases, you're even essentially the NPC observing the main characters in action.

As a bonus, the whole "hear, feel, think" thrown around as a lame marketing slogan every now and then really irked me; it just makes me feel it's a cringe in-game ad for some slogan t-shirts "coming soon on a SE e-shop" (not sure if there are) and breaks my immersion.

No normal person throws slogans around in their daily conversations; like you have a meal with friends at a local restaurant, and someone goes "alea iacta est" randomly between the conversation. Ew.
3Gads: I really wanna know why Wuk was written to be glued to your side. Not even the raids and other quests the new MSQs writers wrote before being promoted were like this.
yanipheonu: Do you love Wuk Lamat?
- Yes!
- Absolutely
- Nod in agreement

The game assumes
SomeCameo: the one thing that really bothers me so far?

this doesnt feel like a vacation.

i honestly would have LOVED if the first Third or even Half of the expansion were just the scions having a vacation and dealing with all the goofy situations that come with that.

give me a momment where the "adults of the group" are struggling with booking an inn, make us deal with the silly logistics of food, room-sharing, time managment etc.

and then the second half could be the actual contest and maybe the rest of the expansion (and if it feels too bloated, maybe push stuff into the patch content?)
happyjellyfish9927: Building a “main character” does not mean simply giving him lots of stage presence. Putting him on the right moments and the right places, showing his actions and emotions so ppl can relate are the key elements for building a great character. And spare players the useless details, u don’t need to constantly remind us she has seasick
Dubhoon: Well, At least it's looking like we are getting our vacation in the patches. our vacation away from Wuk. She's Dawnservent, can't go following us around while we go around the place aimlessly. Or to other reflections at this point. Lets be honest, Wuk's arc is done. Even the end of the expantion was a pretty closed book. Now it's WoL wild adventure with Erenville.
Lyn685: This has probably been said a lot of times, but changing Wuk's voice to japanese has made her a lot more bearable to me.
This doesn't change the issue with her stealing the spotlight so much, but it is also a very important aspect of how she is perceived.
I just think the english voice is pretty grating.
Kyneris: Wuk Lamat should have stayed in Tulliyolal with Koana after the first half of the story. The job was done, we helped her with what she needed help with. It was time for the WoL and Erenville to have their own adventure. Alas, the writers thought differently.
christiansolid1702: If i NEVER see WukLamat in a cut scene again.. it would be too soon.
arthurdowney2846: Someone named their character Speakwith Wuklamat.
lens_hunter: I was waiting and waiting for her to be punished for her world view and her naivety and it just never came.
AshP210: The part about not being able to do anything more in cutscenes despite the WoL's powerlevel really got to me, it was painful having to sit through the number of times where I was saying to my friends "I could take that guy" about someone being an arsehole but we never get to do anything about it

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