secondslate7158: WoW's biggest trick is that it taught all of us that it doesn't matter if you're having fun, it doesn't matter if what you're doing in the moment is enjoyable; all that matters is the promise of the potential of 0.5 seconds of dopamine if a BiS item or mount drops.

That's not to say those moments aren't fun, but it's morphed and jaded players to be purely focus on the outcome at the expense of the moment. We've been trained to be like this, IMO. It's hard to break out of it, but I'm truly glad I did.
BigpoppaEU: The community in 14 is a lot nicer up to a certain point. Coming over from wow it was refreshing until trying to pug Savage for the first time. The toxicity of players in PF there is almost equal to WoW, it's just more passive aggressive vs straight insults. It wasn't an amazing experience from my point of view. 14 players in general are defensive over their game to an obsessive level that even if they don't like something about it themselves they will argue it until they're blue in the face just because they can't hear an negative opinion. It's a weird place sometimes.... Still prefer 14 over modern WoW tho.
jeanschyso: I had a party a couple months back. I was doing Roulettes and landed on my first run of the last Ivalice raid. I'll always remember it as the day everyone was scarily nice to me.

I skipped the cutscene and immediately was told by the WHOLE GROUP that I shouldn't have done that, they would have waited. I just told them I didn't want to be a bother and would just check it out in the book at the inn, but they were adamant and even a bit scary about how "You should watch the cutscene, we're going to wait, it's how this game works". It was very funny to me that I was trying to be considerate of 23 other people, and yet they were all willing to wait for lil' ol' me. It's like we were competing to see who was the nicest person around or something.

One guy was calling for my head for skipping the cutscene, which I thought was very funny.
cr4sh212: A few weeks ago I joined a DRK for a first clear of the final battle of the current raid tier, the DRK wanted it to be a first clear for all of the players, ppl who have cleared joined the PF for a moment and the DRK thought I would leave him and join the half party who had players who have cleared. I told him that I would clear eventually but did not care about when, and we stayed for about 2 hrs until the PF filled. We cleared in about the second to last pull of the lockdown.

Before we disbanded the DRK did thank me for staying. At least, to me, a memorable moment needs to involve more than just me. I can enjoy myself playing solo, but with another that can be memorable.
Nihonguy: One of my favorite things about ff14 is that i can completely take it at my own pace, i started playing around late stormblood i was very used to not only mmos but most games in general wanting me to play through 100s of hours of content as fast as possible, then i played ff14 and people were chill with me dying and learning the game, raids thats been in the game since the beginning are still there, they're people who still run them at minimum item level just because, it was there i realized that i can do whatever whenever i wanted, i had no reason to rush to the latest content cause itll always be there and ill always find people willing to do it with me, and now ove become that max level max item level player hopong into random raids ive done already just willing to lend a hand
StopAndDash: All the content for casual players in FFXIV is what's kept me playing for so long. It's easy to chat with new people because, like you mentioned, stuff like greeting people in dungeons etc. is the norm. There are defo people who are OTT about how amazing FFXIV is and how nice its players are, but In general I've had a good experience. I haven't played much WoW, but one of my favourite online gaming moments is from it. When I was a kid my brother let me use his account, so I would run around exploring. I bumped into some RPers at Ironforge (had no clue what RP was at the time) and they chatted with me for a while and traded me stuff. It was one of my first online conversations with strangers, and thankfully it turned out to be a really positive one. I remember thinking how cool and nice they were, lol. Really good editing on this vid btw!
XieRH1988: Cutscene etiquette used to be a big problem in ARR because of people skipping the cutscenes in the final dungeon, leaving first timers on their own while everyone else rushed on ahead. It even became a controversial topic as to whether the skippers were being inconsiderate, or whether the new player had no right to force their party mates to waste their time waiting because the new player could just watch cutscenes at the inn later on.

The devs eventually ended up making the cutscenes unskippable in the end during 4.2 onwards.
TheEorzeanArchives: Fantastic video. Always lovely to see perspectives from outside the Eorzean bubble.
elliottgale1771: Great video Edd! As someone who played wow previously and is now playing through the MSQ, i still cant get over how nice people are to sprouts. Ive caused a few wipes in dungeons as a new healer, and everytime people are like "dont worry about it, lets go again" rather than insta-abandons i would get in a wow dungeon.
taya0412: Great video my lil
GameGod77: In regards to playing at your own pace. I currently have over 600 hours logged on FF14 and I'm still on the free trial.
Between levelling alt jobs, farming MGP at the gold saucer, and helping my girlfriend work through the MSQ to catch up with me, I've gotten a ridiculous amount of entertainment without spending a penny! I haven't even started Stormblood yet so I've got hundreds more hours to milk out of the trial before I finally get round to paying a sub.

Sep 27 2024

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