dann1cus631: Imagine the ego to think you should be better than the people who spend thousands of hours in the game after 20 hours. I gave him so much shit when this dropped.

Chrome47: ESO isn’t gta or call of duty. There’s way more to ESO, it took years to have an understanding of everything let alone be decent in PvP.

samuelsvincent: ESO is one of those games that requires u to either do heavy research or u need to immediately find friends and asks tons of questions

avidnecro: Big streamers like him whose fan base are 12 year olds will never be good at a game like ESO. They need easy mode like FPS like cod or other shooters like Fortnite, in order to maintain easy, distributed content. It’s a joke.

Godboy860: The craziest thing is this is greymoor patch, arguably one of the easiest times to solo PvP and get x’s.

user-ry7rd2po7r: I am a pvp-mmo-player who has been playing mostly PvP-(MMO)-games for over 20 years. Bought eso around 9 or 10 years ago, have 10k hours mostly doing PvP. Sure, he made lots of mistakes BUT I get his feelings. Compared to other mmos esos pvp is just bad. It was mediocre years ago and gets worse with each year. Servers are laggy, there is no balancing and the last few chapters have clearly been p2w. OP gear etc. gets released and only gets nerfed right before the new chapter with new broken stuff gets released (oakensoul, arcanist, tarnished, scribing etc.). Every time this broken stuff gets released players who buy the new chapters have huge advantages. Skills often glitch in PvP and stuff doesn´t work for no apparent reason.

ESOs core game design is about action-reaction combat, but has been broken since the beginning (animation cancelling= no animation to react to = action-reaction-game-design is broken). The core-combat-design is similar to Conan Exiles- but doesn´t work as well. Eso PvP is often just about the gear and unloading tons of dmg (procs, dots etc.) - sometimes with no time to react ("one-shot"-builds). There are no real tactics or teamplay in ESO, it is a single-player-game disguised as mmo. I get why it can be really frustrating for new players- ZOS dropped PvP years ago and has never cared about it since then - other than changing the meta to keep the players playing (grinding) and paying.

His PvP-fight wasn´t great, but I don´t agree that u need much time to get lots of kills in PvP. The PvP-game-design in ESO has massive problems though. With less and less players around ZOS removed the choice of what bg-style to play, it is all random now- resulting in many players just going for kills instead of going after the flags/ball/relic- with the team paying the price. In PVE there are drop limits forcing players to do repetitive grinds, spending more time grinding won´t give u always more rewards. New players get left behind (dungeon-speedruns) or feel like years of grinding is ahead of them - which is kinda true (leveling riding skills crafting research take around half a year in real time for each character; hidden 24 hour-drop limit etc.) unless u buy it for real money. I DO understand that ESO can be an incredible frustrating experience for new players, especially PvP. It is flawed game-design by a developer who doesn´t care about fun and only cares about the last drops of money they can squeeze out of a dying game, it is truly sad.

Ps: another aspect not to forget: ESO PvP can get incredible toxic. t-bagging is normal, as well as pms with insults or even threats. Unlike other MMOS with PvP- u can send messages to ur enemy in ESO

PPS: PvP doesn´t even give decent rewards. So it is all about the "fun"- but fun isn´t exactly what the publisher focused on. So even if u are great at PvP- it might get boring/frustrating after a few hundred hours of doing it. ESOs PvP isn´t endgame by design, it is what u do in between PvE

elderwiz3165: I did the PvE DLC hardmodes before I even started on PvP... Once in PvP I felt like a newbie again and had to learn from scratch.

hellbender27: There is no build diversity because 90% of the sets are wonky. And the few good sets rotate nerfs. Some sets sound great but in practice are terrible.

donovanwahrman4735: I didnt get proficient at pvp until 500 hours. Now at 1500 i, finally, feel like I'm pretty good at pvp. Switching the mindset from pve, which I initially did a lot of, to pvp is tough. Live on that backbar, reset, kiting, resource management, using your surroundings, and then go back offensive.

mikeysullivan408: “No one getting good at eso in 20 days”

Ngl sypherpk has a vid where he showed his eso clips to Fortnite streamers.

And Ninja was instantly picking up what the metas and rotations were within seconds of watching lol

As a sweat I was genuinely impressed

Sep 14 2024

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