neo9762: We owe Mohg an apology

j-plarouche9959: Ansbach's death quote was my motivation against Miquella. Everytime I eard him say that I was inspired to take the challenge again. The fact that someone so loyal to a demigod says those words with his dying breath is really powerfull and recontextualised Elden ring's story to me

3ZIO87: " So join me this week"

I love it

TheUnseenKrab: Dude the Mohg art is

MalditaSaturna: Pretty sure Mohg snorted a line of blood right before he appears to fight us.

Yharim_The_Impaler: My theory on what the FM might actually look like is just an everflowing ocean of blood in a far-away void or pocket dimension. Liquids take the form of whatever container they’re stored in. Meaning in the case of the Formless Mother, it has no container to hold it. Allowing it to flow freely in whatever dimension or space it currently exists in. And although it’s stated to have a body that can be pierced, it’s not uncommon for a large amount of liquid to be referred to as a “body.” Usually this is the case for water, but anything with a large enough amount of matter can be referred to as a “body” and not just liquids. This is just a personal take though.

svahn1: In this new world of Ai generated content being everywhere on the internet, it's nice to see you both comission an actual artist and shouting them out as well.

krakoa942: It's interesting that the Formless Mother was found in shadow of a tutelary diety, and underground by Mogh. The bloodfiends also seem to gather their blood in dark caves, similar to Mogh's approach. The Erdtree Seal and Cipher Pata are described as formless, but seem to actually be formed from light. Could the Formless Mother be formed from shadow? It seems in keeping with her title as Mother of Truth, someone who seeks to draw out what's hidden (like the blood from your veins).

lukebarroso449: Really happy Mohg beat the allegations.

Mario-SunshineGalaxy64: IT’S MOHGIN’ TIME!!!

oup6009: The Man-flies also have an element of Rot. Rot is described as the cycle of death and rebirth put into practice and that is exactly what happens to the Man-flies. Servants of Rot are all immune to the effects of rot too which could explain how those who cared for the Man-flies were unaffected by the disease.

In any case, I think the idea that "all things can be conjoined" is demonstrated here. A link between the Formless Mother and the God of Rot which we know at the end of the day can be "conjoined" but are ordered separately within Marika's Era.

falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962: The reason that the Formless Mother "craves wounds" is that she craves LESIONS, because Cutaneous horns grow from lesions in the skin when concentrations of keratin compound within a wound, or lesion. The Crucible is literally just keratin, or that which composes hair, horns, fur, wool, scales, feathers, talons, claws, fingernails, and lamprey teeth. This Crucible is opposed to the Chitin Crucible, which composes mushrooms, fungi, insects, crabs, lobsters, scorpions, and kindred of rot. This is also why Man-Flies have lost their keratin horns and have, instead, chitinous carapaces and wings.

ryananderson586: Perhaps the reason she can commune with the omen directly is that the omen, are themselves, a wound.

TheAuspiciousGoldmask: You made justice to mogh !!!! Great video Geoff, as always you don’t disappoint with the quality of your craft.

If its not mean to ask, do you intend to make a video about the Moons ? Their nature and their very aspect is very mysterious, it would be awesome to see your take on the subject.

Have a nice week and take care my friend, don’t you dare go hollow.

belial1821: You should do a video on Maliketh and another on Laurence

babzm.1666: Hell yeah. Mohg and everything surrounding him and the Formless Mother are some of my favorite aspects of Elden Ring’s narrative and lore

giuseppeguardato459: That render is sick Eugenia you’re great! And dear Smough Town, as a Sabaku no Maiku follower let me tell you that you are a really great scholar of the lore

monsieurdorgat6864: Also, as an aside - I notice a running theme with how Outer Gods are discovered. They're discovered when people despair and need answers that the current world order can't provide them. Examples being Romina desperately finding a way to preserve her plants, infusing them with rot. Or the Bloodfiends finding the Formless Mother when they sought council from the now silent tutelary deity.

My headcanon for Mohg is that, after rotting in the sewer with his self-hating brother, was shedding his own blood in self-hatred and looking for answers (we also know from his sword that Morgott bloodlets himself). The answer WAS his own blood - a blood which held power: the power of the Formless Mother. His blood is reimagined as something noble, but also something he intends to share.

Perhaps the connection runs very deep. We could speculate that Mohg's noble blood, which can cause those receptive to it to grow horns, is a way of sharing in the noble and powerful Hornsent blood that was once hoarded in the Lands of the Tower. This is perhaps what the Bloodfiends and cultists of the Formless Mother in the shadow lands might have been surreptitiously starting with their spreading of fly sickness, but this is hard speculative territory.

memoryofsalem4474: I think the nature of the dynasty can most be shown by Ansbach and Varre. Ansbach was discussed in the video but I think Varre bears mention as his last words show that the people of the dynasty truly do desire a world ruled by Mohg: in his last moments, Varre begs Mohg for power and, after receiving no answer, accepts death and begs Mohg to bring forth the dynasty of blood. Clearly, though cruel and sadistic, Varre believes in Mohg's ideal and wants to see the dynasty come to rise.

Another interesting thing and what I think Ansbach means when he blames the charm, Mohg greets us as an "honoured guest" before the fight and his player kill quote is "Miquella is mine and mine alone, for all eternity": Mohg isnt fighting us because he wants to protect his rune or to advance the dynasty, he thinks we are after Miquella and, being charmed, tries to fight ua off. His death quote reveals that, despite the enchantment, Mohg remains true to his ideal: "I can see it, clear as day, the coming of our dynasty", the use pf "our" likely meaning Miquella is counted as part of the dynasty

OnurUysal-nc3fu: How does Godefroy the Grafted fit into all of this?

diamondarmy5546: What an awesome thumbnail

SonicSanctuary: The man files are a very strange case. On the one hand, there are the spirits you mentioned that use blood flies and seem to be somehow complicit in the man fly transformation. But the man flies themselves dont have any blood letting abilities of their own, and in fact seen to share more with the kindred of rot. They use poison and have the fly mold, fungus seems to also be another rot themed thing.

There might be something deeper going on here.

UnalloyedRascal: Great video so far!

Just have to say I really don't believe Miquella told mohg to kidnap him once he put himself in the tree, that really doesn't make much sense given Miquella's intentions for the tree and how Mohg kidnapping him is what killed it. The cocoon in the haligtree in the opening to the game was definitely being used to access the realm of shadow before, it's the same one in mohg's arena. Plus, mohg had his own reasons to kidnap miquella, since there was no other option for him if he wanted to become a lord - Marika was off the table, malenia was rotted, ranni was dead as far as anyone knew.

Miquella doesn't have any long distance charming abilities that would be able to charm mohg from inside the tree either, if he had that things would have gone so much more smoothly for him in becoming God. He could have charmed the player before we entered the boss arena if that was the case!

I don't think there should be any doubt that Miquella only charmed mohg after he was kidnapped, and then used mohg to continue his plans.

GrandStyles: One thing that supports the theory that fly men were intentionally created is that fly mold’s item description says it can be used for pot innards; it is a known ingredient.

In Belarut, near the height of where the fetid waters are being pumped from the reservoir below, you can find a room where fly men have been cut open and had their innards extracted. The fly-men are specifically described as their blood and flesh being usable ingredients. Seemingly, Belarut encouraged and utilized fly men, also helping create them by pumping this water and spreading the disease. The only thing unclear is if this act was consequential utility or if the hornsent were aware and respected the crucible aspects of the formless mother, forming a sort of contract with her to supply innards.

camelia4603: My interpretation is that the formless mother's goal is to create life (similar to odeon) hence they are a mother. Their goal isn't to spread blood, it's just the medium they use to create life.

eduardozmievski5801: Something interesting to note, is the similarty of the blood fiends cave and the chapter of berserk where Slan materialize herself from blood of orcs and trolls. As a godhand member, She's also some kind of "formless mother". I think she even mention the creatures as their "children"

MemeLordThird: “Formless mother”

Looks at thumbnail

Formed mother

thinlizzy9032: glad you could give miquella at least a little grace which is refreshing to see after reading a lot of people saying he's straight up evil. after everything we learned in the dlc it seems almost every faction has just been awful to one another so it should be expected that we'd run into morally grey areas even with supposed pure hearted characters like miquella.

KubinWielki: Mohg and Morgott must've lived above ground for a while. I 100% believe that the Fell Twins fight next to divine tower is them in their past. We get ashes of Omenkiller Rollo (the first omenkiller) from this fight and that drives me to believe that young Mohg and Morgott killed Rollo when he came after them, and were subsequently moved underground - to prevent more assaults on them, and to stop them from killing more people.

pauliewalnuts918: You working with a real artist for this video is so badass man

Iittlebird__: So excited! I just had surgery and your vids have been the sole thing keeping me company during recovery I'm so excited to have a new one to listen to

vroknyr4592: I have to disagree with the idea that Mohg and Morgott walked the streets of leyndel based on the fact Morgott is referred to as "The veiled Monarch" if Morgott had walked the streets his women curse would've been known and the veil of secrecy would be unnecessary, I instead believe he and Mohg were kept as a secret known only to few in the upper echelons of society before being caged in the shunning grounds, also the mention of being tormented by spirits as a childhood memory of Mohg more likely points out to the fact all omen are tormented by spirits in their dreams and perhaps Mohgs royal blood simply gave the spirits a greater power to torment him

Great video nonetheless just thought I'd mention my idea

cegonus: You interpreted the description of the Accursed Blood Pot as more metaphorical, asserting that it references the harassment Mohg received from other people. I would argue that Mohg, Morgott, and all Omen are more sensitive to and harassed by angry, vengeful spirits. The “curse” that Omens bear is not just social stigma, but a susceptibility to spirits born from their connection to the Crucible. I believe this was also a theory explored/mentioned in your Omen/Dung Eater lore video, and I think the DLC has provided more evidence to support it through the Hornsent.

The brownish flames used by some Omen enemies are referred to as “wraiths” in the descriptions of the Omen Bairn and Regal Omen Bairn. Mythologically, wraiths are angry or vengeful spirits that haunt the living. I argue that these spirits haunt and harass the Omen because their “accursed blood” and connection to the Crucible make them more vulnerable to the spirits. It also seems that some Omen have the ability to manipulate these spirits to harm others as well, as shown by the breath attacks of Omen enemies and the second phase of Morgott’s boss fight. The Hornsent also had some affinity for manipulating spirits; Spritestones and Bondstones are one example of this power, as are the Watchful Spirit spell and the homing spirits summoned by Hornsent when you fight him. Further, both these watchful spirits and the vengeful spirits of the Omen Bairns are buffed by the Braided Cord Robe, suggesting a connection between them.

I theorize that the watchful spirits summoned by Hornsent and the vengeful spirits that haunt the Omen are both spirits of Hornsent, and that living Omen and Hornsent can commune with/manipulate these spirits thanks to a blood-connection to the Crucible. The description of the Omensmirk Mask says that it was modeled off of a smirking being that haunts the nightmares of the Omen. Perhaps this being represents the Hornsent slain during Messmer’s crusade, or some curse laid upon Marika and her descendants after her “seduction and betrayal.”

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