Loutr0n: Your video made me realize that Gowry's plan for Millicent somewhat resembles Nanaya's plan for Midra : delaying the influence of the Outer God until the subject is strong enough to serve as a vessel
ericcooke2661: I think that Melenia saying she dreamed of skin of dull gold is her way of saying the unalloyed stitching wasn't working. Her blood was still rotting, thus the outer threading was only covering the rot within.
danieljaworski7239: Also, in one of the theories Radagon is considered as a craftsman who was prominent in smithing and tailoring (e.g. gold sewing kit given to Boc and Golden Order Greatsword) and we can see that Radagon pattern on the Elden Ring is this cross patch reminding of 'holding things together'
On the other hand we have Godrick that also saw the solution to the problem in sewing things together :D
Soooo ER is basically about multiple ways of preventing things to fall apart...
JackisaMimic: Malenia’s reference to the dream she was having isn’t an allusion to what is to be but that already has happened - her flesh is dull gold and her blood is rotted, as the blade of Miquella, corpse after corpse were left in her wake.

The reason she describes it as a dream is due to her Rotting Sickness, it causes memory loss, nightmares and regression.

When Millicent uses the unalloyed needle she says “Even the nightmares have abated” and then she says “I’ve started to recall, but dimly, my destiny” as well Gowry’s shack becoming familiar with to her.

Radahn, when afflicted with Scarlet Rot, becomes mad and feral, with Jerren telling us his “wits are long gone”.

As a fun aside, the wolf is the beast of Caria, so while Radahn likes to fashion himself as a lion, he gorges on corpses “like a dog”.

Jerren then says “Howling at the Sky”, in reality though, Radahn is howling at the Moon. During the boss fight, the Dark Moon reveals itself.

Anyway, the Greatsword of Damnation being a needle is pretty cool
mr_rowboto: I'm buying this. It gets so, so very close to explaining Marika in the SotE trailer taking the golden threads from a corpse, and then brandishing them on her apotheosis.
NorthernDruid: The metaphorical content is clearly there, but I think in the literal sense the needles work more directly by way of undefined stabbing-yourself magic. As in both Malenia and Millicent's cases physically removing the needle from their flesh is what allows the scarlet rot to accellerate.

Needles are used for more than sewing after all, such as part of a syringe or for acupunture, wherein you get stabbed with needles for healing purposes.
Caseyuptobat: Despair breaks down the ego, enabling the influence of Outer Gods to subsume the individual. Malenia blooms into a goddess of rot when she abandons her pride in battle. Midra, when we finally break through to his inner sanctum despite his warnings gives up on enduring and submits to the madness of the frenzied flame. Even the fire giant, in desperation, sacrifices part of his own body to invoke the Fell God when it becomes clear he will lose to the tarnished.
mmyr8ado.360: It makes sense why Mogh's body was able to be used by Radahn's soul despute it being influenced by the FM. Some wounds can stop bleeding by suturing, aka closing wounds by sewing it together. If gold is involved with it, unalloyed or not, it also references kintsugi, the process of putting things back together with gold and resin, which also serves as another inspiration for grafting.
Snoike: The other interpretation I've heard is that the needle works as sort of lobotomy needle, which were historically made of gold due to it being non reactive metal. It makes perfect sense really since the influence of the outer gods and various other effects in the game are presented through eyes.
hapmaplapflapgap: There is a lot of relation between barbs and compelling/forcing obedience. I assume that needles are a more sofisticated form of this same idea, especially considering that barbs were used to maje the first needles. Midras barbs seem to sit somewhere in the middle in that sense, but is still more in line with the barb theme.
darkmystic7764: Fun with the needle: Marika picks up long threads/hairs in the intro, makes me wonder if the elden rune can be used like thread. Really cool catch.
danibarack552: not sure about the connection, but the fact that Malenia has those stitches is mind blowing, never noticed them before
mikaelobos: It truly is mind-blowing that I've never seen anything relating to the woven gold in Malenia's flesh! From a distance I personally just assumed that it was rotted skin, but the fact that I've never seen anything relating to it until now is unbelievable. Incredible insight!
falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962: This is also why I believe Miquella was intentional in his use of the needle, using his sister as a bomb in Caelid. He confined her Scarlet Rot so that it would "writhe" (Millicent's term) and thereby created a nuke to ensure that Radahn would succumb to his plan, despite Radahn's defiant strength and control over the stars (and, thus, Fate). Miquella experimented with Chitin in the Haligtree, transforming Cleanrot Knights into insectoid creatures, and he seems to understand the Scarlet Rot, manipulating it to serve his purposes. He knew that Malenia's pride would make her break her needle and allow the compressed Scarlet Rot to bloom. It is no coincidence that Midra has an attack that explodes in similar fashion to Malenia's Aeonian Bloom. It is a means of concentrating the godly influence and then releasing it all at once, like a hydrogen bomb (or anthrax bomb). Elden Ring is obsessed with germination and fermentation, from the Dungeater to Living Jars, and the potentialities of the return of the repressed. Superconcentrated seeds are everywhere in-game. The Hornsent made Marika from a "seed" (jar). The needle is just a more elegant method.
JackNewbie555: "Alright, got his health to half, here come the phase 2-Is he floating in the air? Is he? Is he gonna Scarlet Aeonia me?" - Me seconds from being nuked by Midra''s divebomb when he enter phase 2, just like Malenia did before
amirnatex1874: Something is really interesting for me.. things that you can pierce with , are really related to outer gods
Miquella's needle
The sword in midra's flesh
And also ... the way that you can make communion with the formless mother , is to thrust in to her body
Just like mohgwyn's spear
usedcolouringbook8798: Whoa why does this feel like a top notch production? Zayf, where have you been hiding these editors?!
ServerYT: Well, Millicent inserts and puts out the needle instantly, so I doubt the needle is meant to sew anything. It's supposed to go in your heart or something and it just works.

If anything, the weapon that Midra is impaled on seems to be what holds the frenzy back.
Undriel: There you said it. The "fabric of reality". The threads Marika pulls from the corpse in SOTE trailer are quite literally threads that she weaves into her own tapestry, a new reality operating onto this new set of rules. Miquella "spoke of the beginning" so the trailer also reveals he knows about these threads, thus he crafts needles. Tailoring is so incredibly underrated and surprising at the same time. So, if you look closely, the Golden Tailoring Tools are obtained at the Church of Vows. Another part of the game where Vows are important is Miquella's memory. Makes me think Miquella might have gotten his needles involved when wishing for Radahn to be his consort, rewriting Radahn's reality and thus sealing his destiny.

Sep 26 2024

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