yosk3619: Miquella received a great rune which would mean he wasn't abducted before the shattering...
Longknife: I think you've got it backwards: I think Marika wants to prevent
Ben10Blader: Mr Beast catching strays even in the ER community
T.e.a.k: Bros helping me work through childhood trauma lol
brunktondaily7137: One thing COULD dispute "Mohg capturing Miquella causing the shattering". Miquella was present in Aoenia after Melina and Radahn fought. We know this from Freyja who states having been healed by Miquella after sustaining injuries in the Caelid Battle. Now was this a projecting? Very possible. But if Miquella could move apart of himself while captured, why not go see Marika/Radagon?
MatheusDornelas: She's definetly not the elden beast
HellYeahGaming: There’s two reasons I can think of the top of my head that Marika could not have shattered the Elden Ring in response to Miquella’s abduction. The first is that the demigod only received their great rooms after the shattering, and Miquella has his until he discard it during the DLC story. The second is that the battle of Caelid Was the last great battle of the shattering war and we know that Miquella was there to heal Frejya of his sisters rot. The sequence of events that you suggest are simply impossible.
gamingwglitch1088: I absolutely love your insights here. I'm not quite convinced of the timeline (was Miquella stolen before or after the shattering) so I'm still convinced that Godwyn's death was the catalyst. However, your connection that the inner attacker stole the inner child is absolutely brilliant.
shiroamakusa8075: Yeah no, doesn't add up. Radahn already had his Great Rune when Malenia challenged him (it's how he managed to survive getting Scarlet Rotted to death) and Miquella was accompanying her to Caelid where he enthralled Freiya to his cause (his powers only work face to face, so he must have been there in person). It's most likely he was abducted on the chaotic retreat to the Haligtree since he had to pass very close to Mohg's territory and Malenia was knocked out and incapable of defending him.

Also, the Elden Beast is stated to have come from space, after Metyr. Marika is not a space-creature, she was born in the Lands Between and has a grandmother, so she's of course not the Elden Beast herself, just its vessel.
MegatronDconZ: If just about all the lore didnt contradict this it night actually be a decent theory
DustDemonTwilight: the Guidance of grace is from Marika, she guides the tarnished AND in the realm of shadow it specifically guides us to kill miquella. also Marika is 100% not the elden beast lol
gygaxthecat2448: That goes right in the relevant videos list!
agxryt: Interesting take. Childhood trauma is often a theme of FS games. Sekiro is largely themed around childhood trauma - Wolf's, his PTSD, his relationship with the perpetrator (Owl), Owl's manipulation to conceal his abuse, Wolf's ability to overcome the cycle of abuse, Wolf's stewardship of the eternally innocent child Kuro, Kuro's untainted childhood wisdom, etc.

I think there's def some themes like this about Miquella. Everyone is so obsessed about Miquella charming people, but really - his reaction to people trying to kill him, is to win them over. That's considerably more "decent" than anyone else in the series. His goal is a gentler world.

Miquella is pure and radiant - even delusional ansbach recognizes it, despite hating him. Because he is a child, Miquella is good, gentle, loving. Untainted.
Ontos99: Hey CT. Nice video. I liked your insights here but an important thing about the timeline. Frejya says how Miquella healed her wounds post Cealid battle meaning he was active in the lands between post shattering. Even the actual beginning cutscene you are referring to (Mohg taking Miq away) is talking about the timeline to be post shattering. You can rewatch the first cutscene: 'Soon Marika's off springs gathered the shards...' followed by 'Mad taint of their power triggered the Shattering (war)...'

So Mohg kidnapping Miquella which is shown with this text is definitely post shattering meaning Marika can't shatter the elden ring as a reaction to Miq's 'kidnapping'. Other than that, the video was great. Much love.

Aug 17 2024

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